Wind farm proposed near Ontario NORAD base

How long does it take an F-18 to fly 15 km? 2 seconds. How stupid is this wind farm proposal?
How long does it take an F-18 to fly 15 km? 2 seconds. How stupid is this wind farm proposal?

If you thought that putting utility-scale wind power projects near Ontario’s small airports and even a skydiving school was not very smart (but got approved anyway), wait til you read this news: a wind power developer is proposing a wind “farm” on Crownland near North Bay, where there is not only an international airport but also a NORAD base.

The Mayor is going to meet with Ontario Environment Minister Glen Murray, who has already mislead the Legislature by saying aviation safety is completely out of his hands.

Note that the first public meeting on the project is being held tonight, despite the fact that Ontario’s new large-scale renewable power process doesn’t begin until March 2nd.

City of North Bay opposes wind farm

North Bay Nugget, February 20, 2015

North Bay is opposing a wind farm proposal north of the city due to its proximity to Jack Garland Airport.

Mayor Al McDonald, who’s scheduled to meet Tuesday with Ontario’s Environment Minister, Glen Murray, said he will be requesting that the province deny Innergex Renewable Energy Inc.’s proposal for a wind farm on Crown Land in the unorganized Merrick Township.

McDonald said the wind farm, which is separate from a proposed project in Mattawan Township, would fall within a 15-kilometer radius of Jack Garland Airport, reducing safety for all aircraft using the facility.

He said the city needs to protect the airport equipment and flight paths, noting the wind farm may also jeopardize the city’s efforts to attract new space and aerospace firms to its industrial business park.

The mayor pointed to the multi-million-dollar investment to resurface the airport’s 10,000-foot runway and develop its industrial business park, suggesting the wind farm proposal council be a barrier to the city’s economic development efforts.

He noted open air space was one of the factors Swiss Space Systems (S3), which plans to test and launch sub-orbital satellites in the city, selected North Bay.

“We have invested a lot of money up there,” said McDonald, noting the city recently learned of the proposal. “There could be a significant impact to the city.”

Innergex spokesman Francois Morin could not be reached Friday for comment about the project or its status.

The Quebec-based firm is also looking to build wind farm in the Mattawa area comprised of as many as 60 turbines with an anticipated capacity of 150 megawatts. Referred to as the Nodinosi Wind Project, the proposal involves a partnership between Innergex and the Algonquins of Pikwakanagan First Nation.

A public meeting regarding the project will be held Monday at the Mattawa Senior Citizens Club from 6 p.m. until 8 p.m.

McDonald is meeting with Murray during the combined Rural Ontario Municipal Association and Ontario Good Roads conference in Toronto, which runs from Sunday until Wednesday.

The mayor will also be meeting with Natural Resources Minister Bill Mauro during the conference about the possibility of locating an MNR fire management headquarters at the airport industrial park. In addition, he will discuss the Ontario North land Transportation Commission with Northern Development Minister Michael Gravelle; and the proposed Cassellholme redevelopment with health ministry officials.

 

Comments

Greg Latiak
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Words are just so inadequate for commenting on this whole business.

Barbara
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Right Greg! Where does one even begin to comment on this whole affair?

The reason why Environment Canada is changing the radar system to accommodate IWTs?

Dan Wrightman
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Whatever Environment Canada is doing to accommodate IWT’s isn’t working. Every day on the Exeter radar you can see the wind turbines showing up as coloured dots, south of Goderich, inland along the Lake Huron coast down to the Adelaide wind projects.

Barbara
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Could they still be running the “old” system and testing the “new” radar system at the same time out of public view?

Everything seems to be secret or none of the public’s business.

John Vincent
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All makes no sense, but the Liberals and their cronies are raking in the cash, and that’s all that matters. the project, like all the others, will go through no matter much protesting is done.

Barbara
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It makes perfect sense to those making money off from renewable energy.

If the various issues involved in this affair are separated out and needed information gathered for each involved issue, then this might be easier to deal with.

Not possible to deal with this as a whole issue most of the time, and this would help to end the confusion about these issues. But these issues all fit together.

Peter
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CFB Trenton is not just another “regulatory agency” by Rick Conroy of Wellington Times:

The DND air traffic control radar at 8 Wing Trenton is essential to the safe transportation of Canadian Forces cargo and personnel in direct support of Canada’s Defence Commitments.”

Already staggering through insolvency, Skypower’s Byran wind energy project suffered yet another, perhaps fatal blow late in September when the Department of National Defence (DND) advised the company that it would not recommend or support the project as proposed.
The Times has learned that 8 Wing / CFB Trenton base commander Major General J.Y. Blondin wrote to Helimax, a wind energy consultancy contracted by Skypower, on Sept. 29 informing the firm that the project, as constituted, was “incompatible” with the safe operation of 8 Wing operations and that industrial wind turbine installation would have an “unacceptable impact” on the safe transport of Canadian Forces personnel and cargo.

wgulden
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Your F-18 math is a little off. It can go about 2000 kph, or roughly half a click per second. Still pretty fast.

wgulden
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15 km would take 30 seconds…

Barbara
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Fine example of separating out issues and gathering information about an issue.

Under the category of IWTs and radar/airport issues? Issues can overlap too.

Richard Mann
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Hello everybody. North Bay Nugget removed my message. I’ve included it below for the record:

Richard Mann 3 days ago Removed

Canadian research boosts Cooper’s case on turbines

Credit: By: GRAHAM LLOYD, Environment Editor. From: The Australian. February 24, 2015.

(Archived at: wind-watch DOT org/news/2015/02/23/canadian-research-boosts-coopers-case-on-turbines/)

Quoting:
“The Cooper study results have been hailed as significant
by some of the world’s leading acoustic experts but not accepted as
proving a cause and effect relationship by Pacific Hydro.”

Mr Cooper has received further support for his work at Cape
Bridgewater from computer scientists in Canada who have been working to record sub-audible noise or infrasound from wind turbines since 2013.

Richard Mann, at the University of Waterloo in Ontario, said
scientists there had arrived at a similar position to Mr Cooper despite
working in a different way.

“Our results show that wind turbines emit a characteristic pulsation
(change in barometric pressure) that repeats with every blade passage,” Professor Mann said.

“This is consistent with the infra sound ‘signature’ you have reported.”

The Waterloo University research did not consider health effects from
wind turbine infrasound. But Professor Mann said: “I join the many
scientists and experts worldwide requesting a thorough investigation of wind turbine noise.”

Richard Mann
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Correction: It was this article where my comment was removed.
Richard

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Richard Mann 3 days ago Removed

Canadian research boosts Cooper’s case on turbines

Credit: By: GRAHAM LLOYD, Environment Editor. From: The Australian. February 24, 2015.

(Archived at: wind-watch DOT org/news/2015/02/23/canadian-research-boosts-coopers-case-on-turbines/)

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